Justice committee  No, the purpose of ADR is to resolve the problem, and to clarify and advance the constitutional language rights. It's not for people to just give up.

Justice committee  The ADR process is not necessarily to avoid trial. I'll give you a concrete example. There's a group of parents whose school is next to a toxic dump, so the environmental situation for the kids is not safe. They want the toxic dump to be cleaned up or they want a new school. They

Justice committee  No, this is actually a case.

Justice committee  Well, those are statistics. There are 18 cases that finished; 10 that went to trial; and four that were resolved. So why do you think that the five cases didn't go to trial? They didn't resolve the problem, so the problem is still there. I'm assuming they didn't want to go to tri

Justice committee  No. What I'd say is that in regard to the funding, the information is available through our annual report in the sense of how much was funded for litigation, the number of—

Justice committee  No. We publish in our annual report the ones that we are able to publish, and I welcome you go to on our website and see that. There has been talk about, if the program were to continue, the possibility of telling applicants that if they want funding from us, they need to let u

Justice committee  I just wanted to add that it's the same thing for the language rights program. As far as we know there's nothing like the language rights support program on the language side anywhere in the world that's funded by the government to litigate against the government.

Justice committee  Out of the completed files, whether successful or not, the number is 18. Instead of looking at it the way that only 10 out of the 18 went to trial, maybe look at it the other way. That is, out of the 18, only four were successful because only with four of those was there actually

Justice committee  Yes, as per normal, the program was evaluated after five years by Canadian Heritage. They did an extensive review of the five years of the language rights support program. I've seen a copy of that report, but it's not yet been made official and public. It hasn't been published ye

Justice committee  That's the government review of the program. The government reviews all its programs every five years, and that was an extensive review of the program.

Justice committee  Well, I think I can comment. Can I comment? It's not public? No comment.

Justice committee  All I'm going to say is that it was very positive in the efficiency of the program, and they had recommendations on certain aspects. You may be able to get a copy.

Justice committee  Yes. I should have brought my list. I have to be careful of the cases I name because the way we work at the Language Rights Support Program is that if an application comes to us, it's confidential, so who made the application and the fact that they made application is confidentia

Justice committee  I can say that there are about 20 to 30 cases that have finished since we've started. They went to different levels of court, but a lot of the cases that we do fund end up in the Supreme Court of Canada.

Justice committee  Absolutely. I am an Acadian. I was born in New Brunswick and lived in Nova Scotia for five years. I have even lived in Alberta, British Columbia, and Manitoba. Now I live in Ontario. I have myself experienced the differences between the communities. Not only are there difference