Public Safety committee  Good afternoon. I thank the members of the committee for having come to Montreal to hear what we have to say. The Ligue des droits et libertés is a non-profit and non-partisan organization founded in 1963. Its objectives are to defend and promote the rights recognized in the Int

Public Safety committee  Yes. To the last part, you said insofar as oversight and review are there. Well, in the case of national security, oversight and review are absent. We have no parliamentary committee to date and we have no mechanisms to review the work of the agencies. The majority of the agencie

Public Safety committee  The fact that CSIS can take preventive action, even unlawfully under the legislation resulting from Bill C-51, does indeed bring to mind the actions of the RCMP. In fact, it's exactly why intelligence work was separated from police action at the time. The problem is that CSIS doe

Public Safety committee  It's not an easy question to answer.

Public Safety committee  It's not an easy question. I agree with Mr. Foura that prevention must be distinguished from deradicalization. The metric of success is whether or not we have youth or other people getting involved in this sort of activity. We have to have measurements, at some point. But as an

Public Safety committee  I will be giving the presentation on the Ligue's behalf. Both of us will then answer questions. The Ligue des droits et libertés, the LDL, wishes to thank the members of the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security for inviting it to testify regarding Bill C-59

Public Safety committee  We feel it is a distinct improvement and does not pose the same threat to freedom of expression. That much is clear. However, counselling a person to commit an indictable offence is, in itself, already an indictable offence. Consequently, we fail to understand why this provision

Public Safety committee  I agree with what the representative from the Muslim Lawyers Association just said. I think a necessity requirement would be a definite improvement, and it would provide some standard to evaluate data retention, because, of course, as mentioned, one of the threats we see in what'

Public Safety committee  Yes. I'm not a lawyer, but he's a lawyer, and he thinks so.

Public Safety committee  Pardon me; who received tens of million of dollars?

Public Safety committee  What does Leadnow have to do with this?

Public Safety committee  The letter to what effect? Sorry, I'm a bit misled by the....

Public Safety committee  I'm sorry; I don't...

Public Safety committee  Okay. I'm sorry I haven't—

Public Safety committee  That's not at all what that means. We acknowledge that terrorism does exist. We acknowledge that terrorism is a problem. However, we do not feel this is a war in the sense in which the word "war" is used in international law. We feel that terrorism is fundamentally a criminal act