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Health committee  Good morning, Mr. Chair, and thank you for the opportunity to appear before this committee here today. As Ontario's provincial police service, the OPP has a unique mandate. The OPP delivers front-line policing services to more than 70% of Ontario municipalities, which is over 13

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  That was my scenario. I don't have any evidence that would prove that, but neither do I have any evidence that it won't happen. When you open the legislation, our position is that there's no need to do it when we're going to have a legalized system where people can access marijua

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  It's an interesting question. I worked in drug enforcement for 12 years and have been in thousands of marijuana grows, and in all kinds of undercover, street-level situations. I've seen youth break into houses and cars and turn that money right into money to purchase, or turn tho

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  What it looks like is still up in the air for us. It depends when we start getting information about what the legislation is going to look like. If we have a good heads-up, let's say, six or seven months out, we can start to work; we'll prioritize. We'll analyze all of our statis

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  I'm not sure I have the average size. I've been in indoor grow operations with 45,000 to 50,000 plants. I have been in indoor grow operations that have eight or nine plants that have a huge yield and a ton of potential to grow a lot of marijuana. I'm not sure I could give you an

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  I'd prefer to use the legal system that's going to be put in place.

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  I don't know. It depends on who's doing the grows. If somebody tries to run 2,000-watt bulbs over their four plants, they have to increase the size of electricity; if they want a 14-week turnaround instead of a 40-week soil turnaround to increase their profit; if they are diverti

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  Starting with the large grows that will be regulated and licensed, it's important to recognize, in my opinion—and I might be on my own on this one—that is what organized crime will target. That's where the most amount of money they could make would be, and that's our biggest oppo

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  I think we're basically saying we recommend the same. It's just like the Liquor Licence Act. If you're not allowed to possess it because you're underage, then you receive a ticket, or there's an option to give a ticket. It doesn't criminalize or do anything of that nature. That's

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  Yes, sir.

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  Do you want to take that?

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  Well, I do like my paycheque, so I'll be careful on my comments.

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  No, I understand that. I can't elaborate much more on what we talked about already this morning on what we think is vitally important. Again—

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum

Health committee  I haven't seen it. I'm not saying it's not there, I'm saying it hasn't been shared with us exactly what the Government of Ontario plans to do with home-grow. What we've seen is essentially what's been released publicly.

September 12th, 2017Committee meeting

D/Commr Rick Barnum