Industry committee  My name is Susan Parker, and I'm the University Librarian at the University of British Columbia, and I'd like to thank you all for the opportunity to speak before you today. With me today is Allan Bell, associate university librarian for digital programs and services at UBC; and

Industry committee  We do have a system that we use. I would actually ask my colleague Allan Bell to come to the microphone to talk about that.

Industry committee  Indeed, we do have the poster on the wall, but that's really not education. That's prophylactic, I guess, really. A lot of the education we do in the library context at UBC involves a host of things regarding literacy about intellectual property, because not only are students a

Industry committee  That's correct.

Industry committee  No, I was not there. I've been at UBC less than a year.

Industry committee  I was going to say that I could ask Allan Bell to answer. He was there at that time.

Industry committee  I don't know that it's necessarily a problem. I think that it's an insurance so that something like what was just described doesn't become more normative in licensing. Right now fair dealing helps us negotiate licences that allow us to do certain things with content. We put them

Industry committee  It would depend, for me at least, on how that would be managed. Many of our students aren't necessarily capable of paying any access rights that they might have to negotiate.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  I think that would probably put a very different spin on it compared to what it is now. In the United States more and more people are talking about this. Every time you touch it, there's a question about fair use. I think there are going to be more and more different opinions ab

Industry committee  The Supreme Court of Canada decisions and Bill C-11, the Copyright Modernization Act, improved things for the educational sector all over. It says that teachers are there to facilitate students' research and private study. The teachers' purpose in providing copies to students is

Industry committee  We're paying Access Copyright when it's appropriate, when the material requested for a course pack comes from material that we need to negotiate payment for. In other words, if a faculty member is creating a course pack that includes a printed work or a chapter or more from a pri

Industry committee  Right. That's what I'm trying to say. Thank you.

Industry committee  Well, it depends on the copyright holder. We try when we can. As Mr. Bell explained, we have a system and a number of staff devoted solely to the purpose of trying to find out who owns the copyright, and we'll negotiate either a permission or a payment, depending. That may go dir

Industry committee  It's similar for us too. We don't really have direct dealings with the Copyright Board that I am aware of, but I would echo what was just said down at the end of the table.