Finance committee  Thank you for the opportunity to present here today. My name is Dale Marshall, and I'm the national climate program manager for environmental defence. Advocates of environmental protection are often told that the cupboard is bare when it comes to budgets, investing, protecting

Finance committee  Sure. Norway, another oil producer, has done this. We don't even have to go to a foreign country. Quebec and B.C. are doing this. All it is saying to automakers is that a certain percentage of their sales have to be electric vehicles. That percentage goes up over time until we h

Finance committee  No, we actually think that this should be done federally. The problem that's happening right now is happening because there are long wait-lists of people who want electric vehicles and can't access them.

Finance committee  We think that we can get to 25% vehicle sales by 2025 and go out from there.

Finance committee  Automakers can make gasoline vehicles, or they can make electric vehicles. If this is implemented in a stepwise fashion—as I said, ramping it up to 100% by 2040—the automobile sector has time to adjust, and we will still be employing workers who are making cars. They will just be

Finance committee  What I'm talking about are the hundreds of millions of dollars that are going towards production subsidies, not consumption subsidies. We actually totally support your government's investing, two budgets ago, $700 million in various programs to get remote and northern communities

Finance committee  Our view is that the oil and gas industry is large enough. It expanded more quickly and increased greenhouse gas emissions more than any other industry in Canada. The reason we don't—

Finance committee  Please let me finish. This is a very important question.

Finance committee  We think that we need to curtail more production. It's big enough. It needs to be phased out and the science is clear on this. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says we need to be phasing out oil by mid-century.

Finance committee  It's not tomorrow. It's 30 years of a phase-out.

Finance committee  No. We should legislate that the vehicle manufacturers themselves reach sales targets for electric vehicles. That by 2025, for example, 25% of the vehicle sales in Canada should be electric, and you increase that percentage over time until you reach the government's target of 100

Finance committee  Your question is my job. I wish I had the answer.

Finance committee  I feel for the people being affected by climate change. That's why I work on climate change. In terms of getting people on board with respect to different regions of the country, each of those places will know better than me what the solutions are in terms of adaptation and miti

Finance committee  Yes.

Finance committee  I have a couple of quick things. First of all, obviously, I feel for all the impacts that are happening there. In terms of the specifics that I talked about with the ZEV mandate, the electric vehicle mandate, this would be a national target. Automakers can sell those vehicles in