International Trade committee  According to a study commissioned by our union, the city of Saguenay, the city of Alma, the Syndicat des travailleurs de l'aluminium d'Alma, and the Aluminum Valley Society, creating and maintaining jobs is very important, if you refer to the table. We can come back to the table

International Trade committee  Yes, it is possible. If the production of aluminum goods is increasing in the United States and aluminum production in Canada is not increasing, it is because of an imbalance somewhere.

International Trade committee  In our region, each aluminum part we make is marked. It is easy to trace our aluminum. This is an easy mechanism to implement, and it just needs a little will on the part of governments.

International Trade committee  Yes.

International Trade committee  The current phase is happening in Arvida at the Complexe Jonquière plant. Prototypes are presently being installed. A pilot project already has pots in operation. Of course, establishing a product like that at industrial scale is going to take a number of years. We are moving tow

International Trade committee  Yes. There are studies on it, but I could not confirm it. We produce two tons of CO2 for each ton of aluminum we produce, whereas in China, it’s 18 tons of CO2 per ton of aluminum. So that is eight or nine times more than we produce.

International Trade committee  No. These are not publicly traded companies that produce aluminum in China or Russia; these companies are subsidized by the government. The goal is to make people work.

International Trade committee  That's right.

International Trade committee  Yes. In addition, 85% or 90% of the aluminum we produce is value-added. Alloys are already integrated into the manufacturing process. For example, an aluminum door frame does not have the same alloy as a car door support. It's all relative in terms of the ingredients that are in

International Trade committee  We're a long way from the Mexican border, so it's difficult for us to monitor that. Basically, we have to go through the United States, and it's up to them to accommodate us. Otherwise, we could jointly set up an audit system and use auditors.

International Trade committee  I hope they've already started.

International Trade committee  Surely a company that loses production or sales capacity to an unfair competitor—

International Trade committee  At the time NAFTA was concluded, almost 25 or 30 years ago, aluminum production in Russia and China was not the same as it is today, as was mentioned earlier. They are the ones who have been trying to corner the aluminum market for the last 15 or 20 years. We can't compare NAFTA

International Trade committee  The old Arvida plant produces about 175,000 tonnes. When I talk about the old plant, I'm talking about the old potrooms.

International Trade committee  That is its maximum capacity.