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Information & Ethics committee  Good morning, Mr. Chair. No. There is not any FRT technology being used by the RCMP at this time that I'm aware of.

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

Chief Superintendent Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, I can comment on that. Facial recognition technology has been used on only three occasions. On two occasions it was with the child exploitation centre that I'm in charge of, where they were able to identify victims of this horrible crime and create safeguard measures to pr

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  When it was initially rolled out, our members started to utilize it on those three cases only. A lot of members were testing the technology to see if it worked. They were using a lot of searches on their own pictures, on their own profiles, to see if this technology worked. The

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  Roch Séguin would be the best one to answer that question.

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  No, we have not.

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  I thought the question was “are we presently”. We purchased two licences back in October 2019. Two licences were used. Clearview stopped all use in Canada as of July 2020, and we have not—

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  I would probably refer this question to André Boileau to answer.

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  At the present time, I'm unable to use that technology, which is very unfortunate, because there are victims at risk in Canada under the child exploitation side of the house. I cannot attempt to identify them, because I don't have the technology. You talk about an urgent file;

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  —and I could not use that.

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  The problem is that it's not available to us. We have been directed not to use it under any circumstances, so it's not available for us to use.

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  I'm waiting on a decision from our national technical operations, our NTOP process, to do that assessment. Once I have that assessment from there and I'm told that I can use it, I will continue to look for victims of child exploitation. Until I get that process completed from my

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  I report to Mr. Paul Boudreau.

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  I cannot provide that answer. I do not know—

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  No, I believe it was obtained by an investigator within the NCECC.

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage

Information & Ethics committee  No. Unfortunately, the director general at that time—it was not me—was not aware of the purchase when it was made.

May 9th, 2022Committee meeting

C/Supt Gordon Sage