Transport committee  Thank you, Mr. Tweed, and good afternoon, members of the transport committee. I'm Captain Dan Adamus, and I'm here representing the Air Line Pilots Association, International, or what we refer to as ALPA. I'm ALPA's Canada Board president and a pilot with Air Canada Jazz. With

Transport committee  Those are some very good questions. I'll start with clause 12. Clause 12 has nothing to do with the SMS language. Clause 12 is setting the framework for the possibility of third-party oversight in certain areas of aviation. We don't believe it's a good fit for the airline indus

Transport committee  Absolutely, it'll be through the CARAC process, and we participate as full partners.

Transport committee  We fully support SMS. However, third-party oversight, which is a separate issue, is again something that we don't see as a fit for the transport side of the aviation industry. It's being done right now in commercial business aviation. My understanding is that it's working quite

Transport committee  It is our understanding that Transport Canada will continue to have oversight on safety. There will be regular audits on company SMS systems that are in place. If they detect any irregularities, then it'll go back to the more traditional audit. Transport Canada will still play a

Transport committee  Certainly a clarification on my comments is in order. Amendments are up to you as a committee, and certainly that's your purview. What I meant to say was that you don't want the legislation to be too restrictive, so that it prevents the department from implementing the regulati

Transport committee  I don't have that information off the top of my head, but we could get the information.

Transport committee  That's what it is in Canada.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  For the companies we represent, the pilot is required to do a six-month check. There are other airlines that have a slightly different training system, that maybe go for longer periods, but they're being trained more often. I'm not 100% sure on that, but maybe that's what you're

Transport committee  I can only speak for the airline industry. I'm a pilot. I don't work in the other areas, so I'll stick to the airline industry. SMS, from what we've seen so far, has worked very well. It has led to changes in procedures that would never have happened, unless the pilots or the e

Transport committee  In our view, SMS is above and beyond the current regulations in place. We think it's a benefit to the safety side of the industry, which is paramount not only to pilots but obviously also to the whole travelling public. Again, it allows you to identify problems that probably woul

Transport committee  Merlin Preuss.

Transport committee  The director general, yes.

Transport committee  No. We are 100% confident that his word means well—