Environment committee  On the processes you've talked about, at the end of the day all the CEC can do is make a recommendation. They can't make a legally enforceable decision, and of course it's across Mexico, Canada, and the U.S. In the U.S. they have the citizen suits, which I've been talking about

Environment committee  In fact we're generally the largest customer for the CEC complaint process in Canada. We often use the federal process as well, and it is very useful. It certainly highlights, and they investigate well and deliver a report, and that is used. But generally we would use this as a

Environment committee  If you look at our chart, there was only one conviction in 2005. So even if these were at the top end, we're not talking a lot of money, but these fines are generally at the lower end of the scale. Certainly, under the Fisheries Act the maximum is around $100,000 to $120,000. The

Environment committee  Thank you. I'd respectfully have to disagree with that. We own the water; it's a public resource. The fisheries are a public resource. Regarding the Fisheries Act, there's a case right now in P.E.I. as to whether the fish resource is held in trust for the people in Canada. So we

Environment committee  Sure, I would like to. We would favour more of a regulatory approach. We think that brings certainty, and it levels the playing field. One of the goals of enforcement in all of the policy manuals of Environment Canada is that enforcement is carried out in a fair, consistent, and

Environment committee  I think the number for CEPA 1999 is at our tab H, and the number for CEPA 1999 was only 24. So 9 of those 33 were for CEPA carry-overs for CEPA 1988, according to the records we were given. In our view, that's inordinately low for what is said to be Canada's premier environmenta

Environment committee  Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and committee members. Thank you for the opportunity to address you this afternoon on these issues of public participation and enforcement. I will be dealing with two matters that no one else, as far as I know, has dealt with in these hearings. The f