Justice committee  Yes, we will.

Justice committee  Are you talking about breaches?

Justice committee  The Ontario Ministry of Community Safety and Correctional Services is the keeper of the statistics and could probably provide them from back then. We do have some of the statistics here, but we don't have them, for example, from 1996 until now. We don't have the numbers of every

Justice committee  In terms of your question about the breaches and the results, I have heard reference here to the idea that you go to jail and serve your sentence. In Ontario, that's not the case. About half the breaches that we have laid have not resulted in any jail time at all. As Don was just

Justice committee  You would use the word ''treatment'' and order the conditional sentence. Many of the probation orders have treatment. They call for counselling or programming, and they don't need the offender's consent to order those on probation. To actually order a treatment program with condi

Justice committee  Anyone who is sentenced to a term of two years less a day remains in the provincial system. That includes everyone on probation and all conditional sentences. There is no federal probation, so we have provincial probation, we have conditional sentencing, and then we have provinci

Justice committee  If there are, for example, hundreds of serious sexual assaults, we're not talking about one. If we looked at the numbers in Ontario, if we're supervising all of them, then we would know that there are many serious sexual assaults. No, it's not as many as the frauds, certainly, bu

Justice committee  I am answering this, but first I'd like to clarify the programming comment that was made about lack of resources. The lack of resources in a community would apply regardless of what form of supervision you were on. I want to clarify that. If there's a community that lacks a certa

Justice committee  The main difference is the treatment. The normal difference that you see in terms of how that plays out is treatment versus calling it counselling. Often the service the offender receives is the same, and the issue is calling it “house arrest” as opposed to “curfew”. On probation

Justice committee  What we were saying at the outset is that we've spoken out for some years about the serious violent sexual offences, especially offences against children. So as we were saying, without an amendment...we quoted the professor who talked about looking at principles. We are not at al

Justice committee  The caveat that we gave earlier when we were talking about offences against children was that sexual assault and assault causing bodily harm would still remain as a hybrid. The issue we were raising there was that our concern was for offences of that nature against kids; we were

Justice committee  That's a genuine issue. Obviously we would hope that decisions would be made based on the right, like the seriousness of the offence and so on, but what we have seen--and the reason we're stating these facts up until now--is that the discretion that does exist in terms of sentenc

Justice committee  We weren't saying we were in favour of C-9; we were referencing specific concerns we've had about the most serious offences. Then we quoted the principles of Professor Paciocco as a good measure. Our concerns are the most serious offences, particularly serious offences against

Justice committee  Yes, probation officers are the conditional sentence supervisors.

Justice committee  Yes, as far as we know.