Official Languages committee  A number of ministers supported us, such as Ms. Copps. Mr. Sauvageau and Senator Gauthier supported us too. Many people helped us, including one belonging to the party in power.

Official Languages committee  Yes.

Official Languages committee  When you talk about $500,000, don't forget that this is for all minorities. It includes the women of Canada, who account for more than 50%. If we just take a third, about $550,000, and we are a million francophones living outside Quebec, that comes to 50¢ per person. But since th

Official Languages committee  —knew that for just 30¢ per person, to uphold our rights... It's a shame, it's a scandal! It doesn't make any sense. It's disgusting, pardon the expression, but there you have it. There is no other way to describe it.

Official Languages committee  No. It's 50¢ for francophones only—

Official Languages committee  —but since we include Quebec anglophones in our group, since they are in a minority situation like us, it comes down to about 30¢ per person. Does that make any sense?

Official Languages committee  For 30¢ per person.

Official Languages committee  Yes, for peanuts. It's ridiculous! It's the price of a tank without air conditioning like we have just bought from the Netherlands.

Official Languages committee  I read in the papers, specifically in Le Droit, that a committee member had said that coming back before the committee would not change anything because it was a matter of policy. But it was all right. I spoke to this member and he was just fine.

Official Languages committee  It's Lalonde.

Official Languages committee  I would not include Mr. Clement in that bunch. When he became the Minister of Health, he truly understood—

Official Languages committee  He understood, even though it was only after we had won, and he came to see us to say—

Official Languages committee  He is the one who asked us what we really wanted and what we really needed. That is entirely to his credit. Mr. Clement understood, but the other two just don't get it.

Official Languages committee  Indeed. They wanted to turn the page and not talk about it anymore. Yet they had very senior positions when they arrived. One of them held the purse strings and the other was with the Defence Department. There is no doubt that for us it was fairly easy to make the connection. If

Official Languages committee  What is hardest, Mr. Chairman, is that there are no major francophone corporations located outside of Quebec. We had to raise money by turning to ordinary citizens. As I said the last time, a young boy from Rimouski sent us $5, and the cloistered sisters sent us $11.23. We receiv