Natural Resources committee  There's been a lot of talk about what energy sources are used in the tar sands. We've talked about the fact that there is coke, which comes out as a byproduct of the system. That byproduct is relatively stable and can be stored. It doesn't go off into the atmosphere very quickly.

Natural Resources committee  Let me say that we did not do that in a detailed way. We had six months, literally, from the time we were first convened until we last met. So we had to get very focused, early on, on the main themes that we felt we had to address. But what we did address, because we were asked a

Natural Resources committee  That was one of the questions we were asked to address when we did the panel activity that resulted in this report. We make many suggestions in many areas, but there are four areas we identified that we think should be priorities for the government, where the government has an im

Natural Resources committee  Let the economics engender the savings. Efficiency is a two-edged sword. If somebody invented a light-emitting diode, you'd get this bright light and almost no energy. What are we using here? It didn't displace very many lights, but every billboard in the airport is a sheet of th

Natural Resources committee  Put the plan on the table and engage in discussion the way they did for the sulphur and gasoline, and sulphur and diesel. It's a good model. It works, and you get the intellectual capital of industry working for you.

Natural Resources committee  The real issue, and we speak to it surprisingly in this report on technology.... The final recommendation is that we get serious about social science, because in things like this, passive solar and so many other consumer-related choices, we don't come close to what we could achie

Natural Resources committee  This is not a recommendation for policy, but you could have a form of carbon tax within the country, one that we manage, where we know that we're not simply transferring wealth out of the country to some organization that had to shut down their dirty old polluter ten years ago an

Natural Resources committee  Yes, I'll make a very brief comment. The talk around natural gas and the fear that we would run out of it as a fuel is associated with the fact that in a single molecule of natural gas, we move four hydrogen atoms. Nature connected them all up. What you want at the point of eve

Natural Resources committee  People are not drilling because the price of gas isn't high enough to justify the drilling.

Natural Resources committee  I can remember a speech when a guy said, if the price of gas ever got to $1 Canadian for 1,000 cubic feet, Alberta would collapse because it couldn't sustain the cost.

Natural Resources committee  It was 22,000.

Natural Resources committee  They would have drilled a lot more. I'm on the board of a petroleum company, and we're not going to run out of gas. Cost is going to reshape how we use it.

Natural Resources committee  Let me speak to the energy intensity thing. The problem we're trying to deal with when we're dealing with greenhouse gases is a global problem. Some of you will have seen recently that Alcan has decided to build a million-tonne-a-year aluminum refinery in South Africa, because

Natural Resources committee  I wouldn't put a number out here, but the purpose is simply to suggest that if we clean up the process, as we know we can do today, it will become more energy-intensive. Of course, my original premise was that it doesn't make any difference whether it's more energy-intensive, b

Natural Resources committee  I'm not advocating any particular process here. I'm citing that as something that, given the processes we have and can manage today, if we want to make a difference with them, we have to start sequestering the carbon dioxide. If that costs more—and it will cost more—but if it cos