Justice committee  We do have information on charges laid, yes, but they could change before they get into the court system. When they lay a charge, that's the information we get at that point in time.

Justice committee  We could tell you simply the number of persons charged for any specific firearm offence at that point in time from the police.

Justice committee  When they send us an incident record, at that point in time they'll have an offence, let's say a firearms offence, and they'll either have a clearance that an accused was identified and whether a charge was laid or not at that point in time when they send in the record.

Justice committee  No. The information from the police is based on actual offences regardless of whether there was a charge laid or a suspect identified.

Justice committee  Yes, but they're not in these graphs. They're regardless of whether someone was charged with that offence. These are simply accounts of a number of offences.

Justice committee  It is possible, and because of the change, we don't know for sure.

Justice committee  Between 2001 and 2005?

Justice committee  I believe there was an increase in Toronto. I can try to find the number for that. The increase for 2005 was generally in Ontario and Alberta, and specifically within Toronto.

Justice committee  That was a change we made to the wording of our question on the homicide survey for the collection of 2005 data. Do you want the exact wording change?

Justice committee  No, there isn't. We do have some numbers, but there's no slide.

Justice committee  The original question on the homicide survey in 1991, I believe, asked if a homicide was related to gang or organized crime activity. The answer we put, the choice for the police service, was simply yes, no, or unknown. Since that time, in conversations with a lot of police forc

Justice committee  It was made for 2005 data.

Justice committee  No, not convicted. This is strictly from police.