Government Operations committee  On contracts.

Government Operations committee  Yes.

Government Operations committee  No.

Government Operations committee  The contract was written 35 years ago. The business world has changed in 35 years, Ma'am.

Government Operations committee  Yes, with Olympia & York. I think the first contract was signed in 1978.

Government Operations committee  That was 30 years ago.

Government Operations committee  Yes.

Government Operations committee  Yes. Unfortunately, I do not know all of the details. I believe it was purchased from a trustee in bankruptcy. In what I've been reading to prepare for this meeting, I think there was a trustee. Olympia & York, at least, I believe had a trustee. It talks about Rosdev purchasing from a trustee, which says to me that there must have been a bankruptcy of Olympia & York.

Government Operations committee  No. We've had to retain outside counsel, as we lost our Department of Justice litigator. Court dates have been set, and we're moving slowly but surely toward trial. The normal process is going on. The court is doing its thing, in the normal way.

Government Operations committee  Somebody suggested today having a one-page piece of paper, but on a technical litigation matter, where people really don't understand the issues, they can read that one-page piece of paper and still want to talk to and ask questions of the author of the document. The status of litigation is not necessarily self-evident.

Government Operations committee  We have copies with us to give you today.

Government Operations committee  Yes. It's been severed for solicitor-client privilege only.

Government Operations committee  Honestly, I can't recall being asked. I can't remember their voices, and I'm good at voices. You have to trust me that I have given serious thought to this. I knew I was coming here today, and I have really done my very best to remember. I've gone through my daytimer, where I often make notes.

Government Operations committee  Thousands.

Government Operations committee  Certainly. Sometimes the briefings were on forthcoming legislation; I would do the technical legal briefings on the status of legislation and why it was drafted a certain way. Sometimes the briefings were on major litigation files, involving tens of millions of dollars of taxpayers' money—