Public Safety committee  Organized crime readjusts quite rapidly to a changing environment, very much as business does, and therefore they'll adjust when seeing whether customs officers will indeed intervene or not. They'll adjust. Our intelligence has clearly told us that could be the case. I'd just l

Public Safety committee  On the issue of deterrence, it remains to be determined whether it will be a deterrent. It would be purely speculative on my part to say at this point whether or not it will be a deterrent. What I can tell you, though, is that the RCMP is working jointly with border safety office

Public Safety committee  That's a good question. I'll defer this to Deputy George.

Public Safety committee  My time is your time, Mr. Chair.

Public Safety committee  In fact, it's your uniform. When the officer gets there, even before the officer has verbal exchanges with the individuals, just the mere presence at times will pacify the situation. We take it from there. I agree with you that if your verbal intervention is the first one, then w

Public Safety committee  Exactly.

Public Safety committee  So you know what you're talking about.

Public Safety committee  That's the type of training we're providing with CBSA, taking into account their role and their environment.

Public Safety committee  That's correct. There are two key aspects here. You're talking about basic training and then about training the people who will train our members. What you have to bear in mind is re-certification, because the Canadian public has the right to have professional police officers who

Public Safety committee  It's basically the same IMIM training, or incident management intervention model, that is used within the RCMP and applied to CBSA.

Public Safety committee  As I've indicated, our main objective over the next two years is to have 300 of these trainers who will ultimately train 4,800 of these border safety officers.

Public Safety committee  That's correct, bearing in mind that it's the full spectrum of intervention and that we have to consider all of these options before we get to this ultimate option.

Public Safety committee  I agree wholeheartedly with your approach. The point is to protect the officer, but also, first and foremost, to protect the public. And that's the main focus of our intervention model. Whereas you have to factor in, in your arcs of fire, for instance, the risk that if you apply

Public Safety committee  Indeed, because that's the ultimate goal, given that these people are also our precious partners when it comes to securing our borders. We want to make sure that we apply the same types of training standards so that we're all on the same page, so to speak, when it comes to these

Public Safety committee  That is correct. And it's done in full consultation, as I've indicated earlier, with our people from CBSA.