Public Accounts committee  I need to put it in context for you.

Public Accounts committee  I'm sorry?

Public Accounts committee  I had known that they had had difficulty with him, that there was difficulty with him. That was very nebulous.

Public Accounts committee  That would have been when Doug Lang sent me—

Public Accounts committee  I don't have that date. I don't have any of my records. It was at the same time he sent me that memorandum.

Public Accounts committee  June 2005—whenever the investigation was closed down.

Public Accounts committee  When I spoke to you on February 21, I understood that Frizzell had had many problems, leading with obsessiveness, regarding the investigation, and finally he had gone off-duty sick. The e-mail that's being passed around now--is that David Gork's e-mail? Because I don't see it.

Public Accounts committee  Okay, look at the date when David Gork responded back to me and gave me that information. That was information I did not have at that time.

Public Accounts committee  I would not have been informed of that except via Dave Gork at the time, if he so felt, because the decision would have been taken by the operating officer in charge of that investigation.

Public Accounts committee  Paul Roy had every right to remove any investigator that he deemed fit. He wouldn't have come and asked me. Don't forget, sir, there are 25,000 people in the RCMP. Many of them go off on sick leave or other leave. I'm not informed.

Public Accounts committee  No, it wasn't.

Public Accounts committee  Which I just received after my testimony on February 21. I could not have given that information on February 21, as I did not have it, sir.

Public Accounts committee  And I did.

Public Accounts committee  I called the Treasury Board, at a very high level, and I told them the situation. The CHRO had resigned and had gone home. I now had the director of NCPC, and I asked if I had the grounds to suspend the CHRO without pay. I was asked what the circumstances were, and I said it was

Public Accounts committee  I have a witness who can confirm that he told me. He said that if there were no criminal charges pending on this individual, I was quite within the my rights to send him home with pay.