Citizenship and Immigration committee  There are about 11,000 children in Quebec who report that they were born outside and think of themselves as Canadian at birth.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  That's a good question, because we're seeing what we are right now only because of needs for passports. We're seeing lots of people for the first time applying for their certificates of citizenship. I've tried to get a ballpark idea in terms of bounding the problem. When we hear

Citizenship and Immigration committee  My guess would be tens of thousands.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Tens of thousands at least.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  There are 100,000 in Canada, so I don't think it's going to be much more than that.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I don't know their marital status at birth.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  No, not on that one.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  If we knew that, yes. If we knew the precise immigration history, marital status, all the things that we normally would see if we were doing a review of them, that would help with the number. But we don't have that from census data.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  That's right.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  They shouldn't.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  No. We don't have a marital history on any of these individuals.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  That's right. The only accurate number we would have, if we turned to administrative records, is the number of cases that are actually under review and on which some decision has been made, and that's a very limited number.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  No.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  That's one of the major cautions, I think. When I define a demographic group, in the written part I said that the actual counts would be if every one of them has actually filed for citizenship, and then we'd see what happened. But I don't know, and I don't know anyone who does kn

Citizenship and Immigration committee  That's right. I defined three groups. One group is--