Public Accounts committee  I don't.

Public Accounts committee  No, I didn't; Football Canada did that.

Public Accounts committee  We would get a reservation from the league, but not necessarily where they were staying.

Public Accounts committee  Sorry, is there a question there?

Public Accounts committee  Well, first of all—

Public Accounts committee  I don't have any documents.

Public Accounts committee  I'm sorry, I can't hear.

Public Accounts committee  I'd just like to say that it had always been my habit to combine business with cities where there was a Grey Cup festival. A festival is what goes on during the week. Unfortunately, without access to those records, I can't be more specific. I'd like to assure the members of the

Public Accounts committee  I think all the inmates were dealt with in a professional manner, whether it was Mr. Olson or someone else. During my time there we not only expanded the office but enhanced our role with both staff and inmates at the institutions.

Public Accounts committee  No, nothing.... At Grey Cup time, airlines and hotels are at a maximum. You can't get a room in a hotel—

Public Accounts committee  And that's why. The CFL reserved a number of hotel rooms for people who were going to go to the city where the game was. Football Canada is the amateur arm of football in this country and they would reserve, say, half a dozen tickets, depending on how many people were going from

Public Accounts committee  When I first took the job there were five people in the office, so, as I mentioned before, I would get my girl to get me a plane ticket. I would phone the institution and tell them I was coming. They would make up a list of inmates who wanted to see me and I would go out and do i

Public Accounts committee  No. I offered to pay the finance department of the secretariat and I was told that wouldn't be necessary. I made that offer on my retirement.

Public Accounts committee  Well, there were five people in the office, so that was the department. You're suggesting the office of the—

Public Accounts committee  Well, 30 years ago I don't think they—