Agriculture committee  Yes, 1,200 sites.

Agriculture committee  It was probably a little higher, probably in the 1,500 range.

Agriculture committee  When you refer to the nine, are we talking about the ones that are in my statement?

Agriculture committee  Right. So you're specifically referring to security requirements and standards.

Agriculture committee  We drew those right from the American document of eligible expenses, because they're very comprehensive, they're already enacted in obviously a large jurisdiction, and they're working. They make common sense. That's the bottom line. So we drew that, with consultation from the sec

Agriculture committee  We never got to that point about what's appropriate security. It seems we've never been able to actually arrive there, because the hurdle has been even finding out who owns this issue.

Agriculture committee  The point I just want to make is that this includes all crop inputs, not just anhydrous ammonia.

Agriculture committee  No, it's multiple. Urea, not yet; we suspect in the future. Anhydrous, definitely from the Transport Canada side. However, we have Natural Resources Canada for any of the fertilizers with explosive potential for strictly components regulations.

Agriculture committee  To add a further comment to that, Mr. Atamanenko, I think what it really comes down to is that it's all about risk management—the risk in terms of legal liabilities, the risk of potential future incidents, and regulatory compliance. Everything is about risk management, and that c

Agriculture committee  The best way to think of it is this. If fencing were required and there were five different kinds of fertilizer to fence, rather than fencing five times—one for granular, one for anhydrous, one for liquid, one for chemical, etc.—can you imagine the cost savings if we could do it

Agriculture committee  That's correct. The government is not even improvising. They are not doing anything at all right now. There has been nothing proactive from the government in terms of how to approach this. We should be doing risk assessment studies. The Americans have this down pat. I've watched

Agriculture committee  That is certainly our fear, there's no question. We wouldn't' dare come before you if we hadn't costed this out. We have worked with the Canadian Fertilizer Institute to get a consensus on what the cost would be to perform and execute the infrastructure required for this security

Agriculture committee  Yes. I, too, think we can provide you with sound advice. It's an excellent question, and our advice would be that, yes, first of all, there are regulations that do not harmonize well. They don't even have to be crossing provincial-federal barriers. Often they are even federal or

Agriculture committee  That's right. The U.S. has provided an agri-business tax security credit. They have a marked advantage because their security costs have been subsidized by their government. They don't have to pass those costs on. This is a global market, and we have to compete with them as much

Agriculture committee  That's correct. We're not competitive any more because we have to price in all that overhead.