Citizenship and Immigration committee  You are correct, but it's not just people who are appealing removal from the country. There are family reunification issues for people whose request to bring their families to this country has been rejected. Their appeals are also being put on hold because there aren't members to

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I think you've summed it up pretty well. As I say, there are quite a number of different cases that go before the immigration appeal board and the refugee board, and all of them are being held up. There simply isn't the manpower to deal with the cases. And I agree with you that

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I do. I think you're getting into a separate topic—

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, but what you're not stating is that there was never a requirement that people pass that test. It was one of the tools.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'm agreeing that was recommended.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  What we had was an objective test that gave us a mark—

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Let me finish, now. Although there were a small percentage of cases in the grey area of having failed by only a small amount, it was never in our mandate to exclude everybody who got a failing mark on the test. It was one of the considerations we had to look at. I can tell you

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'm sorry, but 28% of people who failed were not passed along.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Well, it's wrong.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  You've mixed together three or four different issues there. The fact of the matter is that, yes, some people who were recommended for interview did not pass the test. It was never in the mandate of our committee that they had to pass the test. You can put that in as a qualificati

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I don't have exact figures, but my understanding is that by the end of this month we will be almost 60 members short.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Absolutely not. I have very great admiration for Jean-Guy Fleury and his ability to avoid politics in his job. I don't know how he did it, because it's such a minefield of politics. I've known him for many years. Before I was on this advisory panel I also sat on a committee cal

Citizenship and Immigration committee  That is, I understand, the recommendation that was made.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  My position, regarding the comment you made about what was originally proposed in 2004, is that whatever was stated in writing at that point—and I don't recall back in 2004 exactly what was said—

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'm sure it's correct. The fact of the matter is that this wasn't what happened.