Veterans Affairs committee  In my opinion, mental health does not only involve mental health services, which Ms. Ramsay is responsible for. It involves health in general.

Veterans Affairs committee  It involves our entire health group. It includes front line doctors, medics, nurses, infrastructure, buildings and vehicles. Our budget includes all these things and money is also spent training these people. Today, we are talking more specifically about health. I'm not the one w

Veterans Affairs committee  I have the feeling that the chief medial officer of the armed forces, Ms. Kavanagh, our big boss, could tell you what proportion of the budget is spent on health care. I don't have that information, but perhaps Ms. Ramsay could provide it.

Veterans Affairs committee  The numbers vary depending on the season. In the summer, the cadets and reservists come to Valcartier. We treat between 7,000 and 9,000 patients, including reservists.

Veterans Affairs committee  That's for psychiatrists, doctors.

Veterans Affairs committee  I think that if we look not in that book but the other book, of Pascale Brillon, she's reported a few studies. You could have percentages, but it varies in studies. After being exposed to a trauma, there is about a 15% chance of developing post-traumatic stress disorder, whether

Veterans Affairs committee  As regards your stakeholders who are working with VAC, they don't get what we're trying to get. That's why we need to set up these clinics where they can talk to each other. We have to send some of our active duty members downtown, because we are not enough to care for them. But

Veterans Affairs committee  We could have more people working with us, but we're not allowed. We don't have the organizational charter to hire. I know they are looking at that. It is a work in progress. We have to see how efficient we are before they allow us to have more people in that trade. We wish we co

Veterans Affairs committee  What I have realized with respect to the uniformed doctors in the military is that we tend not to go to these people, because we refer our patients to them. So if we are sick, we will not seek help from them. We found a psychologist downtown who is older and very experienced who

Veterans Affairs committee  And VAC.

Veterans Affairs committee  In Valcartier there is a research centre next to us. They have a cyber room. Again, that's another initiative we have. We attended a cyber therapy meeting and the American army was there to train people. You go into a cyber chamber and you're 3D—on the ceiling and the floor. And

Veterans Affairs committee  But if they are reservists, sometimes they don't come.

Veterans Affairs committee  And the quality of care given to these areas is even more important to look after and to supervise, as Marc-André was saying. It's very difficult to treat PTSD patients. It's sometimes easier for a family physician to say if they want sick leave, here it is, take that pill, and

Veterans Affairs committee  And I think we're getting there. We have the return to work program in most of the clinics, but this mentality is not there in the civilian sector. A lot of doctors find it so easy to just say sick leave, sick leave, sick leave. It's very difficult to practise medicine the right

Veterans Affairs committee  What we know in psychiatry is that these two anxiety disorders are some of the most difficult to treat and treat the right way. We need to be à la fine pointe with these things, get the proper training, but also continue medical education on these things. If we're talking about V