Natural Resources committee  Thank you.

Natural Resources committee  We can certainly get you quite a bit of information on that.

Natural Resources committee  I don't know if you have noticed it when you're coming from the airport, but we have the big wind tunnel at NRC. There's also a hangar there, and we have four or five airplanes—all experimental. Some of them sometimes fly to study hurricanes, but others fly to study and measure emissions for Environment Canada and stuff like that.

Natural Resources committee  I wouldn't either.

Natural Resources committee  Certainly. We'll get you that.

Natural Resources committee  If I may, if you're in Ottawa and we can have a few minutes of your valuable time, please come aboard. I will show you that work, right at NRC.

Natural Resources committee  Yes, absolutely.

Natural Resources committee  We can do that too. I don't know if it's as good as the cafeteria here.

Natural Resources committee  The other area about braking is what's nice about electric cars is that once you stop, the engine's not running. You can stop the engine.

Natural Resources committee  Yes. I certainly don't disagree with that. As I said, there are a number of things we can do, particularly in houses. The difficulty in a big city when energy becomes a little problematic is if you have a wind turbine on every house. But definitely a combination of systems with the advance of batteries can help get us more energy efficient.

Natural Resources committee  Yes. We've done that a couple of times, not extensively, and we follow their work and their reports quite closely, because this is one of the areas where you get direction as well, where experts think energy is going or what the requirements are. So we follow these reports closely.

Natural Resources committee  Absolutely. I mentioned this area because this area is already establishing some projects with Environment Canada because of the expected increase in aviation in high altitudes. We're establishing a project to have measurements of major emissions, particularly close to the layer we worry about--have planes follow the big 380 or 747 to look at emissions.

Natural Resources committee  Now that we're working with the industry, in aerospace, we can get you quite a bit of material on what we do, from engine certification to cold weather testing, ice testing, emission for gas turbines and so on.

Natural Resources committee  No, we haven't. As you probably know, regenerative brakes now exist on hybrid cars. One of the reasons for their high efficiency is they actually use the energy from brakes to recharge the battery.

Natural Resources committee  Yes. We have to think about how we can use that energy and in what form can we store it. If you think of compressed air, you have to get it back into a compressor. So we have to send it back to electricity and to a compressor. I don't know. It's a very good idea that industry has used in the hybrid cars.