Canadian Heritage committee  We did see clear targets in the area of French radio specifically. Unfortunately, I cannot give you a specific example, but I know that in their internal plan they had very specific performance indicators. As for the other networks, in some cases they had—

Canadian Heritage committee  For example, in French radio they wanted to increase the coverage throughout the country. They had set a specific target to increase to 90% coverage throughout the country by a certain date. In that case, we could measure whether they were meeting the expectation or not. In the other media, we did not have such specific cases.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you. Actually, yes, CBC is involved in new media. They're looking at how they can integrate new media within the current platforms that they have. We have highlighted that in paragraph 27 of the report as a challenge they have to deal with and incorporate within their activities.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. We did indeed look at the role of the ombudsmen. We have interviewed them both, and the ombudsmen report directly to the president and to the board of directors on an annual basis. They do present their report. We talk about that in sections 117 to 121 of our report.