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Industry committee  The task force report was a unanimous report that included representation from the marketing community, from the business community, from the consumer community. We're talking about as broad a cross-section as I think you could get on this issue. It's unanimous that Canada needs

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  The concern is that there are any number of subject matters that you find with respect to spam. The presentation referenced some of them, whether it's body part enlargement or otherwise. But fake real estate scams, property in some country, are included in that list. People send

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  If it's strictly a commercial message and it falls outside of this exception, so we're dealing with something that's clearly commercial, then you have to obtain consent.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  I'll take 15 seconds just to supplement that. The issue of cookies has come up in discussion, not so much as to whether it's spam but as to whether it's a computer program that's being inserted on someone's personal computer. I think the consensus is that it is not. If you take

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  Yes, I think it does.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  First of all, I think this is a good-news story for business, not a bad-news story. There are many businesses that want to rely upon electronic communication and have been undermined by the extent that spam has become a problem in this country. This, I think, will go a long way t

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  Right. At the time the person has made that purchase.... We all fill out these cards all the time for production information and the like. But all they have to do, any time they're obtaining that information in the first place, is to obtain consent. If they've never obtained my p

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  I must say that's the first time I've heard that particular complaint. I believe there is an exception for law enforcement. If there isn't an exception for law enforcement dealing with that, then there ought to be.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  It's not, and it's not a problem under this bill. If I purchase a car seat for my daughter and send in the warranty card and give them consent to send me regular updates, as I no doubt would, because I'm going to be concerned about the prospect of safety recalls, then they can co

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  I'm saying that if it is outside the 18 months and the consumer didn't give consent for that warranty information to be sent to them, then I suppose, yes, it might be.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  Well, if they didn't fill it out, I'm not sure how the business would contact the individual.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  As I mentioned to one of your colleagues, there is an exception for charities. So if you're registered, I think it's section--

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  Right. I think if the gist of the overall message is that it's coming from a university, let's say, which is a registered charity, and within it there's an opportunity to get a university-branded credit card, or something like that—which we often see—I think it would still be per

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  If we're talking about business-to-business, it's excluded.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist

Industry committee  If you're talking about business-to-consumer, then, yes, exclude it.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Prof. Michael Geist