Information & Ethics committee  Argentina, as part of the WTO discussions, but that's an aside.

Information & Ethics committee  Right. We're in agreement. I would note that I don't think it's net neutrality alone that addresses some of these issues. I'm particularly focused on the double-edged sword of open Internet provisions around data transfer and data localization, which are included also in TPP

Information & Ethics committee  Exactly. The problem comes down to some of the regimes that you were just referencing who might use some of those same kinds of provisions to say, “We're actually going to mandate that the data is localized here.” Their purposes are not to protect user privacy—

Information & Ethics committee  —but for censorship purposes or other kinds of purposes. The challenge becomes, how do we establish the privacy safeguards with these provisions while not losing the benefits of open Internet provisions in these same agreements?

Information & Ethics committee  It will be next week.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes.

Information & Ethics committee  On the speed side, especially for some of the most popular ones, I would say no. Generally, it's not as if, on December 15, we'll see a two-tier Internet. It might take a bit of time for some of these to unfold.

Information & Ethics committee  In terms of speed, the reality is that many of the largest players ensure that they have Canadian-based servers to send out the data. They'll locate here. Netflix, for example, will co-locate in lots of ISPs to try to speed up and reduce the amount of bandwidth that gets used, an

Information & Ethics committee  I don't think we're ever going to get to the point where the majority of Canadians are able to turn into their own geek squad, where they can figure out precisely why something is running slowly, nor should they be expected to. I think if we value net neutrality, and as mention

Information & Ethics committee  I would say a couple of things. First, a provision in the larger chapter is more realistic than you might think. The challenge will be whether or not it has any teeth. The digital trade chapter in NAFTA is, we are told, modelled on the TPP e-commerce chapter. They've renamed it

Information & Ethics committee  It was.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes. That's an interesting point. To come back to the trade issue, certainly taking a look at what we've seen most recently, it's easy to be pessimistic for sure. I do think that the backlash we've seen in the United States and the support for net neutrality that still exists a

Information & Ethics committee  As these negotiations unfold, you never know. I think you've highlighted a really interesting issue that extends beyond just neutrality. That is the extent to which we do see digital policies potentially characterized or actually having the effect of a trade barrier. That same d

Information & Ethics committee  Absolutely.