Public Accounts committee  It was one of the jobs, yes.

Public Accounts committee  There was nothing on my job description that mentioned contracting.

Public Accounts committee  My job was to sell CAC services.

Public Accounts committee  Government departments.

Public Accounts committee  We used to meet at least, I'd say, 10 or 12 contractors a week who would come to our office.

Public Accounts committee  No, that's not correct. What Mr. Koziol said is how this all started is that we had another CAC person working at NCPC, and that person told Mr. Koziol that the CAC does contracting services also. That's how I got to meet Mr. Koziol.

Public Accounts committee  None.

Public Accounts committee  The word “preferred” means that the client was allowed to invite their contractor of choice for a NAFTA project, under NAFTA.

Public Accounts committee  That means for any contract that was not posted on MERX, the client was allowed to invite the preferred client.

Public Accounts committee  Correct, if we're talking about “preferred contractor”.

Public Accounts committee  No, what “preferred” meant was that the client was allowed.... To have anything competitive, you had to have at least three bidders. The system that was used at CAC is that we had a skills registration system where people would register on the site, and people would come to see u

Public Accounts committee  At the time, it was doing my job.

Public Accounts committee  I knew of him. We worked at--

Public Accounts committee  I worked with Mr. Koziol in the same branch in the 1990s.

Public Accounts committee  I had lunch with a lot of my clients, yes.