Human Resources committee  Absolutely. That's where I guess I default again to saying we need to have a group of people who are looking out of the box. The people I'm in contact with on a regular basis are all over the map, from shift work to retail, with all kinds of challenges. It's so diverse. I guess that was my concern as I went through Bill C-303.

Human Resources committee  Many people have said that I have said many things--so yes.

Human Resources committee  I've tried to be.

Human Resources committee  Absolutely. In fact, at this moment in time we as a faith community are trying to build a safe environment for children to participate in this community. It's a $6.5 million project. So we're not opposed to that. But as a parent, I know this too: no one can pay any institution to love my child enough.

Human Resources committee  Yes.

Human Resources committee  What do I think about this? I don't mean to be redundant in any kind of way, but I think we have to discover something that works. If this is something that can truly be linked together, I think it will be more positive. I don't like to see visions that go a different direction.

Human Resources committee  There are a lot of things I'd support if the bottom line is it's changing a child, but it has to be verifiable. You have to validate it at some level with the parents you're in communication with. I have to see it working, and not just statistics--not just Sweden, not just Denmark; it has to work here.

Human Resources committee  For instance, getting funds to the families that choose to stay at home. Right now the system appears to be working, and the $1,200 subsidy, getting it to.... A choice. I'm looking for a choice, and I just don't think it goes far enough, in my opinion.

Human Resources committee  In reading it over, I just don't believe that it goes far enough. I think there needs to be more diversity. I do believe it has some valid points and some opportunity for success. I don't believe it goes far enough. There needs to be a greater option--

Human Resources committee  Again, I'm more bipartisan, in that I'm not thinking it is counterproductive, I'm just saying I don't believe it goes far enough. Yes, we need these programs, we need educational places. I'm not against that. I'm saying you have to go farther because there are families at home that can get them places and encourage them in situations and get them the help and encouragement apart from just the institutional locations.

Human Resources committee  Correct.

Human Resources committee  I'm suggesting that there's an absolute need to do something that's going to change the lives of our children, yes. We're all for that: changing the direction and whatever it takes to make sure this doesn't happen. Where it does not speak to the bill implicitly, it does have a connection for me, as I'm going down the street, to see that children need absolute care in our community.

Human Resources committee  For me, again, at a grassroots level, when I'm working with children and teens all the way through, there does appear to be a connection to the ability of families to care for their children.

Human Resources committee  I'm a preacher, you know.

Human Resources committee  Oh, it was that fast, eh?