Transport committee  Yes, we think it's important not only to look at what the product is and what the cars are, but also to look at the operational practices of the railway companies. We think speed, routing, and all that sort of thing should be part of the consideration.

Transport committee  Sure. We think that would be an important component of the emergency response planning initiative, or the ERAPs that we talked about, You also seemed to point out the reverse encroachment issue we face in all sectors, and I think it's important that we pay attention to that. Ther

Transport committee  Sure, thanks, Bob. Yes, we do believe there is a difference in terms of the volatility and therefore they should be looked at and managed differently. That's why there are a variety of packing groups that Transport Canada rules have covered, and so looking at that and applying

Transport committee  I think it's important to make sure there's knowledge of the variety of products that exist out there and are being moved. We think a consolidated ERAP and/or emergency response system is probably more robust and more effective to manage the movement of crudes, and that's why we'

Transport committee  We are in dialogue with the Railway Association and Canadian Fuels Association and would entertain whoever else has to be part of that to set up a national system. The governance would still need to be defined, but I think everybody has a role and a responsibility in its design,

Transport committee  In western Canada we have an entity called Western Canadian Spill Services, an organization that is jointly funded by the producers. In fact there are mandatory requirements to participate in that, or have separate response capabilities, by the regulators in western Canada. That'

Transport committee  I have not.

Transport committee  I would expect that some of them have, or at least in part.

Transport committee  I would say that we've paid attention to what the discussion has been with respect to rail, whether it's the Auditor General or the Department of Transport and the working groups they have put in place, which we have been participating on, to address the issues that we've seen co

Transport committee  I'm not understanding where you're going with the question, but we certainly believe there should be appropriate safety management systems in place. We do use those within our own business. We have looked at safety, both from a safety management system perspective, a safety proce

Transport committee  I was just saying that we look at safety culture as probably the best opportunity to enhance the safety performance, regardless of the industry. It's more than just documenting safety and safety performance; it's trying to embed the safety culture in the business, from the CEO

Transport committee  Sure. Right now we are directly engaged with the firefighters association as CAPP, CFA, and the rail association to pull together the necessary information. CANUTEC, an organization in Ottawa, also provides the information around the products that are being moved, the MSDSs.

Transport committee  Yes, thank you. That working group did identify a couple of needs. One is to make sure that the testing was happening at the appropriate transfer points. I think there's merit in having a mechanism to affirm that from a regulatory perspective. The minister did direct all the

Transport committee  That's fine. The transloading business is actually not directly part of CAPP membership, so I can't speak to that with any knowledge. I would think there's merit in looking into that. Per the Propane Association's comments, when you have two different jurisdictions, there is al

Transport committee  Absolutely, and we'll look into this per your request. I think our members, with their contractual arrangements with the transshippers, would have contractual arrangements with respect to the safety requirements. We will look into that.