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Justice committee  Let me try to answer all of your questions. The difficulty is that by making a general law or a general rule, as you say, you're going to convict innocent people. I invite you to find another provision in this Criminal Code where people who are factually innocent--someone who d

June 5th, 2007Committee meeting

Jonathan Rosenthal

Justice committee  That's right. And do we want to really create a piece of legislation that is forcing judges and taking away their job to analyse the facts--

June 5th, 2007Committee meeting

Jonathan Rosenthal

Justice committee  No, I'm not saying whether they're charged inappropriately; I'm saying we have courts to determine whether or not they are guilty. Anything that forces a judge to convict someone who is factually innocent is a dangerous piece of legislation, sir.

June 5th, 2007Committee meeting

Jonathan Rosenthal

Justice committee  I guess it comes back to one of the basic premises of criminal law, which is that it's better that 10,000 guilty people get off than one innocent person ever get convicted.

June 5th, 2007Committee meeting

Jonathan Rosenthal

Justice committee  I think it's a very dangerous system where we're going to convict innocent people at the expense of not getting some people--

June 5th, 2007Committee meeting

Jonathan Rosenthal

Justice committee  I don't think any jurisdiction has passed a law, a criminal law, which puts such a burden upon an accused. But what I can tell you is every time they make the penalties harder for drinking and driving, people fight these things harder and harder. The most significant amendment in

June 5th, 2007Committee meeting

Jonathan Rosenthal

Justice committee  Well, it may not be for no reason. Quite often the police get calls that there is some bad driving on the road, and with their obligation to investigate that, they show up and they do knock on the door. But on this post-drinking conduct, the example I gave was showing up at the d

June 5th, 2007Committee meeting

Jonathan Rosenthal

Justice committee  Why would they do that? People do a lot of stupid things, but just because they do something like that--

June 5th, 2007Committee meeting

Jonathan Rosenthal

Justice committee  And if I could add one thing, remember that there are two drinking-and-driving offences. There are impaired driving and over 80 milligrams. If someone exhibits physical signs of impairment, and the test for that in Canada is whether their ability to operate a motor vehicle is eve

June 5th, 2007Committee meeting

Jonathan Rosenthal

Justice committee  That was my conclusion.

June 5th, 2007Committee meeting

Jonathan Rosenthal

Justice committee  I will be addressing the amendments in paragraphs 258(1)(c), (d), (d.01), and (d.1) of the code. These are dealing with what is commonly known as evidence to the contrary. The proposed amendment will require an accused person to show either machine malfunction or improper operat

June 5th, 2007Committee meeting

Jonathan Rosenthal