Public Safety committee  Yes, I speak to them, but if you're asking—

Public Safety committee  Yes, they do.

Public Safety committee  We consult the provinces. We consult the RCMP. We have a network of consultation in Canada to determine whether or not reforms are necessary.

Public Safety committee  I think if you ask the RCMP, they would indicate that they think these provisions would be useful.

Public Safety committee  In oral conversations? I think my officials have consulted with the RCMP and others. I personally haven't, but there are others who have.

Public Safety committee  The original bill was reviewed by a Senate committee, as well as a committee of the House of Commons, which made recommendations. The House of Commons committee recommended that the provisions should be extended and continue. Both committees made recommendations as to amendments

Public Safety committee  They would have been part of internal government discussions.

Public Safety committee  I can't, off the top of my head, recall exactly who they were, but if you want, we can answer--

Public Safety committee  Obviously the crown prosecutors in the Air India case were of the opinion that the provisions on investigative hearings were useful for a witness they encountered who was not providing information, and therefore they made an application to use an investigative hearing to obtain e

Public Safety committee  In 2004.

Public Safety committee  That's a hypothetical because it's a negative: the provisions haven't been in place.

Public Safety committee  I think you would have to ask the investigative authorities whether they could have used an investigative hearing since 2004. I don't know what decisions have been made by individual attorneys general throughout the provinces or by the RCMP in terms of investigation. Those are qu

Public Safety committee  Again I repeat, you should ask other individuals, who were actually operationally involved in these cases, whether they would have used these powers if they had been available since 2004.

Public Safety committee  You're asking me for a hypothetical—

Public Safety committee  I'm not privy to RCMP or Toronto Police operational tactics, or decisions made by crown attorneys in British Columbia or even the federal government. The Public Prosecution Service is an independent agency. They don't tell me the decisions they make. They don't tell me the decisi