Industry committee  For charitable organizations, yes.

Industry committee  There are some criteria. Sports organizations wouldn't necessarily...and religious.

Industry committee  Not necessarily, no. Most organizations that are under charitable status would receive it.

Industry committee  Certainly from our end, we're not suggesting there's a disconnect. We're just saying it's equally important that if you have the legislation, you also have the enforcement. We recognize that the RCMP at a border in B.C. may have more pressing issues to deal with than a counterfeit raid or opening some boxes, but it has to be integrated.

Industry committee  From Microsoft's perspective, any charitable organization receives their entire software inventory free of charge. So we will donate that, and we've been doing that year over year. It's about $16 million to $20 million per year. We'll donate to any organization that submits an application for their software requirements.

Industry committee  You misunderstood. I said that there are already programs established in other provinces and that we are currently working with Quebec. There is no difference, there is no one province where it is working better than in another.

Industry committee  Yes, but as I said, it is a question of evolution. It is different in each province. It all depends on what their school boards want to do.

Industry committee  I agree with Bernard on this point. It is not necessarily a solution, but the philosophy of the Government of Canada is that we should become a major player in the knowledge economy. The conditions that will enable Canada to play that role have to be created. The government is well aware of the economic aspect of the potential economic fallout for the country, if we develop human capital for a future that focuses more on the knowledge economy.

Industry committee  I am going to let Matthew speak, but we are always happy to talk about what we are doing for society.

Industry committee  If you will give me 30 seconds to do a commercial, I will definitely jump at the opportunity. With respect to teaching and students, Microsoft has a program called Partners in Learning, everywhere in Canada. In Quebec, it is pretty stagnant, but in New Brunswick and Manitoba it has made considerable strides.

Industry committee  I don't feel comfortable at this point. I'll respond, if you want, in writing afterwards. No, I have nothing to add, thank you.

Industry committee  You know what, I'm going to get to answer my question from earlier. The teachers teaching the students are the ones who also need the training, and I think that's where we're seeing a big gap. We have 50-year-old teachers, with all due respect, teaching kids who are much more savvy on computers and technology.

Industry committee  Mr. Chair, I have just one.

Industry committee  I was going to say that the teachers at the elementary level--

Industry committee  I think it will have the opposite effect, because organizations like banks can focus on banking and not have, necessarily, an IP shop per se. What it creates are organizations and an ecosystem that Canada can create and not just deal within Canada but globally, where a lot of the services, a lot of the infrastructure, and a lot of the support is managed through them.