Justice committee  Most of the equipment has cross uses on production of any type of synthetic drug. Some of the chemicals are very specific starting points, whether you're working your way toward methamphetamine or one of the other synthetic drugs. To answer Mr. Bagnell's question, in Canada the

Justice committee  The proposal in the bill deals with a much broader set of circumstances. Once again, the precursor control regulations only control a very specific list of chemicals among class A and class B chemicals. There are six or seven in class B and approximately twenty or so in class A.

Justice committee  It would be helpful to include the chemicals that are not currently among the class A precursors. There's a fine balance with the class A precursors, in that all of these chemicals are legitimate chemicals and are used throughout industry. So there's a fine balance between puttin

Justice committee  I'm not sure I understand the question fully. Are you talking about the two different mechanisms as between the regulations and the CDSA?

Justice committee  Yes.

Justice committee  Yes.

Justice committee  I would assume so, yes.

Justice committee  We are finding some of that in Canada. We're also seeing methamphetamine put into tablet form to mimic ecstasy, as well, and being sold on the street as an ecstasy product, whereas in fact it is not.

Justice committee  I believe it is. There certainly is going to be a burden of proof on the police in collecting evidence, and on the crown, to prove the intent. Many of these chemicals and apparatuses have dual purposes. They have perfectly legitimate purposes, but under certain sets of circumst

Justice committee  Most of them, yes.

Justice committee  Absolutely, yes.

Justice committee  Yes, it does.

Justice committee  I don't think there's a problem to that extent. Canada doesn't actually have a problem with cocaine production or heroin production. Certainly we have ecstasy production in the country and some other synthetic drugs, but methamphetamine certainly stands out at the forefront of so

Justice committee  I can address that today. Here in Ottawa, in December 2002 and January 2003, the RCMP worked with the Ottawa city police department and eventually dismantled a clandestine drug laboratory that was producing ecstasy in the east end of Ottawa. The Ottawa city police executed sever

Justice committee  Essentially, that's correct. In the precursor control regulations, there's no offence for simple possession of specific chemicals, regardless of the quantity. So in your scenario of the truckload of chemical A going somewhere, there would be no offence in the current legislatio