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Fisheries committee  Perhaps my closing comment can serve as an answer to an earlier remark about whether it's a trade affair or an environment affair. It's clear that it's not a trade game here. The idea is that fishing is a common pooled resource. Like air, it's a universal resource. The idea is

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  Sometimes when we're discussing this we can get some ideas. If I were in your place, the first thing I would ask Canadian negotiators about is the strange absence of asking for special treatment for aboriginal fishing. It's really very strange. Clearly there are a lot of things c

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  If your benefit comes from the new conditions of the market due to what happened, there is no subsidy.

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  I agree. I agree with you that it's a strange aspect of how the draft text.... The only way for aboriginal people, as I see it now, is to say that what they fish is not marine capture; it's a delta or a river or something like that. As I told you, everything with deltas or river

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  Yes. Everything concerning artisanal fishing is in the box for developing countries. I agree with you that it's strange.

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  No. The government doesn't pay you anything, so it's not a subsidy.

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  No, you yourself have to receive the subsidy.

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  No, it's not a subsidy, because it's something given by the new conditions of the market. It's not something that is due to a direct payment by the government.

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  You're right.

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  Oh, yes, yes, that.

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  Absolutely.

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  It is my understanding that it will be allowed as long as the wharf is not used exclusively and directly for fishing. As you pointed out, word choice is very important. Let us take, for example, the paragraph on infrastructure. It is an important one.

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah

Fisheries committee  Exactly: exclusively or predominantly. The language is very strong. There really has to be a direct intention to support the fishing industry. If it is not exclusively or predominantly related to fishing, it will be difficult to run afoul of the provision.

February 28th, 2008Committee meeting

Dr. Marc Bénitah