Public Safety committee  Yes. I just want to make sure that everyone understands something. When I talked about 40 deaths in the province of Ontario, I had done a preliminary review of information on the special investigations unit website. I had not done an in-depth analysis, so those numbers may not

Public Safety committee  It's a good question, but it's one that I don't think we can really definitively answer. I would only be able to speculate. As I said in my remarks, during a 10-year period, 35 of 40 deaths that occurred did not involve the conducted energy weapon. People have been dying under s

Public Safety committee  There were some where the causes were undetermined.

Public Safety committee  Yes. As I said about that CSI effect, the general public expects that an autopsy will reveal everything, but sometimes it can't. Sometimes the problems are so subtle that they escape detection. How do you know what you're looking for when you're not certain what you're going to f

Public Safety committee  I hope they do. I don't know what the terms of reference are for many of the investigations or reviews currently under way, but I've also learned that when we get a few answers, it seems to open up the doors to a couple more questions. The more we learn about this, the more we

Public Safety committee  We had an incident in Ontario involving a gentleman and six or seven trained tactical officers. Those are officers who work in a full-time agency of around 400 full-time members. That is what they do; they attend dangerous calls. They were sent to gain control of an individual an

Public Safety committee  Yes, a colleague of mine, Dr. Wanda Mohr, who I believe is now at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, has testified before the United States Senate and Congress with respect to that very issue. She has talked about these kinds of deaths occurring in group home

Public Safety committee  Absolutely. Yes, sir.

Public Safety committee  Yes. In fact, Inspector Sam Theocharis, who used to work with me at the Ontario Police College as a seconded instructor, called me and asked me to have a look at that article in which he was quoted. But yes, indeed, version 14, which was the last taser disc for training sent ou

Public Safety committee  Certainly, it's like anything. There are airline pilots who need better training and there are physicians who need better training, and there are teachers and police officers who need better training. I don't know of a perfect system devised yet, but if we--

Public Safety committee  No, it's maybe the weapon holder. But if someone is using it incorrectly.... I think with the SB/OR idea--subject behaviour/officer response reporting--as it's called, which Staff Sergeant Johnston is championing in partnership with the RCMP, we're going to be able to find thos

Public Safety committee  Research requires ethical practices to be put into place. You have to have an ethics review and people have to be informed of what they're about to endure in anything when it involves human research. I know people would like certain research to be conducted. It's precluded by the

Public Safety committee  Good afternoon. My name is Chris Lawrence and I'm an instructor at the Ontario Police College. For the past 12 years my duties have included training Ontario police officers on how to gain lawful control of resistive, aggressive, assaultive subjects. I'd like to begin by quotin