Natural Resources committee  I have one little point. Newsprint is not cyclical. In the last three years it's dropped almost 6% or 7% a year. It will not come back. It's over; newsprint is over.

Natural Resources committee  Pulp prices are at a high, but the margins that pulp makers are making in North America leave enough to sustain the industry, not improve it. No new craft mill is going to be built anywhere in North America, ever. Again, the environmentalists won't permit it, but they permit them

Natural Resources committee  Yes. I want to make one point. When you clean your glasses now with Kleenex, it leaves lint. All of us were taught that was really bad. The South Americans taught us that's soft. Okay, that's eucalyptus, that's the lint. It's the eucalyptus fibre.

Natural Resources committee  Yes. I think the summit is an excellent idea, but the summit should be focused on developing a policy, provincially and federally. It cannot be focused on what we are going to do to the existing pulp and paper industry. It cannot do that. Pardon me, again, but the best pulp mill

Natural Resources committee  The highest it has ever been.

Natural Resources committee  Pardon my interruption, but we have three pulp mills in Ontario that are shut down permanently--three.

Natural Resources committee  No, I'm suggesting that we have to have a policy. Do we want to protect that industry? Three, five, seven years from now British Columbia will have 50% less wood to put out. Then what do we do with David's members?

Natural Resources committee  Yes, I agree, but--and I say this humbly--some of it's directed to the pulp and paper industry that exists in Asia and China and South America. It doesn't exist in North America as it did. I believe now it has to be a biofuel, biofibre industry. We are not--and no one is--a leade

Natural Resources committee  It's the application of pesticides that can control it, but it's environmentally unacceptable to do it. It's going to devastate the industry. It's moved across the Alberta border unstopped.

Natural Resources committee  Yes.

Natural Resources committee  Catherine, I'd like to answer your question, and I would also like to comment a bit on Monsieur Ouellet's question on the $10 million. We desperately need a policy that says we will convert the forest products industry to a biofibre industry in Canada and then put the right amou

Natural Resources committee  I agree, and the comment I'd like to make is that community-based control is an excellent program, but it would be a superb program if the federal government policy said, “We're going to fund biofibre projects only. We're not going to use it to prop up an industry that is past; w

Natural Resources committee  Thank you very much. I'm very pleased to be here. When I got the notice, I must confess I thought we could finally make our point. But in doing a little bit of the research that's required, I want to present the industry in a bit of a different context. I must admit that you fo