Public Accounts committee  Yes, I think we—

Public Accounts committee  Yes.

Public Accounts committee  That's correct. We provided an estimate of what we think would be kind of an average estimate over the delivery period. We also provided a total program cost estimate. We had $148 million as the average sustainment cost, and we had a total program cost of $128 million per plane.

Public Accounts committee  Sir, no, and it was never our intention to minimize this. I thought we were quite clear in the report we released in 2010 that we saw this as beyond the scope of our paper, but we did highlight it as being very important.

Public Accounts committee  Thank you, sir. I think with respect to the cost of acquisition, this is a complicated area where there are many different definitions. I think that in some cases this is just a question of comparing apples and oranges, unfortunately. Again, the numbers we've seen from DND rep

Public Accounts committee  Sir, we have certainly read reports that there are benefits with respect to the industrial benefits program. We really saw this as beyond our report, so we haven't commented on it in our report.

Public Accounts committee  Sir, we don't really have a comment on that. I'm sure that Industry Canada officials are much better placed to comment on that program.

Public Accounts committee  Sir, I think it's reasonable that there could be significant long-term benefits for Canada, but again, it was outside the scope of our report.

Public Accounts committee  Actually, sir, we have read reports on what these benefits could be, and at some point—there is some context in the paper we provided—we thought this would eventually be compared with the total life cycle cost estimate. Our job, we thought, was to look at one side of that equatio

Public Accounts committee  I would say, with respect to the original request for information, that we in the committee received some but not all information.

Public Accounts committee  Well, certainly partial information with respect to operating and support costs. Again, we received this information roughly less than a week before we released our document.

Public Accounts committee  May I add one point, sir? We also asked for information on their methodology and did not receive it.

Public Accounts committee  There's significant disclosure. I don't know what the page number is. Perhaps we can find it in our report on how we estimated operating costs. Again, it's a top-down model. We're using a standard definition of operating and support. We're looking at a 30-year history. Then we're

Public Accounts committee  Absolutely. I'm saying we've provided a report. If you want additional information in terms of our estimates—they are technical in nature, how we extrapolated—we're happy to do that.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, sir.