Natural Resources committee  Just to add, in talking about rate caps and anything like that, let's not forget that the railways are all making record profits today. They're making record profits and giving us the worst service we've ever seen.

Natural Resources committee  Actually, maybe it was communicated wrong. I wasn't suggesting any great caps or anything like that. We were talking about what was going on with the farmers and what they did over there. We were saying that we agree with FPAC's findings and Hank Ketchum's note with regard to th

Natural Resources committee  --to address that. It just got approval.

Natural Resources committee  Absolutely.

Natural Resources committee  We are currently working with the longshoremen. We're actually putting together a deal with them right now. I mean, to say we haven't wanted to use them in the past.... We have found it more competitive to send pulp from Terrace Bay up to Three Rivers, where they had a 50% rate r

Natural Resources committee  Yes.

Natural Resources committee  Yes, I appreciate that.

Natural Resources committee  Sure, we wanted free trade. Yes, absolutely.

Natural Resources committee  That is correct, yes.

Natural Resources committee  Correct. It is just magnified today.

Natural Resources committee  And we continue that practice today.

Natural Resources committee  Okay, sure. I'll clarify. How do we address this situation? Every year we run a multitude of barges through the entire shipping season, as long as there's no ice, right from the day.... Our barges are getting ready right now because of all these rail issues. We had nine barges l

Natural Resources committee  I guess there are two ways of answering the question about why they as a monopoly can just keep increasing the rates even if they increase the supply. Everyone is aware that all the rail lines are printing record profits today. In a monopoly system, I guess you have one of two wa

Natural Resources committee  I'll start. From our standpoint, simply put, the rail lines do not have the ability, with how they're running their assets, to deliver to the capacity of the mill. Simply, when you produce 120 cars a week and they cap you out at 70, and they have the only line in, they're not gi

Natural Resources committee  Okay, I'll add something to address that. The simplest way to put it for us is to say that we produce about 120 cars of pulp today, weekly, at Terrace Bay Pulp. We cannot order from CP, the only line we have to that mill, any more than 70 cars a week. So if you try to punch int