Citizenship and Immigration committee  Is it fair for them to have a list of individuals who are not licensed members and who are providing immigration services, without commenting on whether they're unscrupulous or not? I don't see—

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Well, I think everyone has to do their part. I think lawyers have an obligation, when we find these kinds of agents, to do what we need to do to report them to the regulators. If CSIC has that obligation, then I think they should do it. You have to shed the light of day on the

Citizenship and Immigration committee  That is really what it boils down to, in my view.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you again for inviting me. It's good to see you again.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  The victims first have to be assured that the consequence of their coming to the federal agency is not going to be their imminent removal from Canada. That's a very important and effective tool that unscrupulous agents use, saying “If you complain, you will be removed.” And I h

Citizenship and Immigration committee  You have to shine that light and you have to point it.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Well, everyone has to do their part, but you have the tools. You have the resources and the legal power. What we have is the power of persuasion, the power of dealing with anecdotal evidence, and dealing with various ethnic groups. But at some point in time, the government and me

Citizenship and Immigration committee  As I say, I haven't had a chance to read this report.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I understand. My experience is that these are very good, and I usually learn something new from them every time I read them.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  But I think, really, all the reports in the world are not going to replace the political will to do it.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I appreciate the opportunity, and I thank you for inviting me.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'm sure you'll have a lineup in Toronto.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I believe in corporate responsibility, just as I believe in community responsibility. There's a model, for example, in Manitoba under the provincial nominee program. Several communities had agreements under which they were responsible for selection. They brought in the immigrants

Citizenship and Immigration committee  As a lawyer, we don't keep statistics. Clients and people from the community come to us and tell us that some people have come in, and they're having problems. Their applications are being refused. Anecdotally, we know; it's the same people, perhaps a small group, who commit the

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Most people who operate in this area do it mainly for economic reasons. In other words, they're doing it because that's how they make their money. And that's why I think the coordinator approach has to involve Canadian Revenue Agency. The best way to deal with individuals who are