Citizenship and Immigration committee  Absolutely. Yes, I think we should have a federal stream. I don't think it should be a provincial responsibility.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  [Inaudible--Editor]...mean that that's exactly right. I think we need to look at what the country needs and we need to protect the refugee branch. We need to do that. That's key, and it always has been, to who we are as a nation. But when we're talking about the economic stream,

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, and it's multi-faceted and it's this big. So that's probably the stream that needs to be looked at.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  People are coming right now as temporary farm workers and they want to stay here. Why are we doing that? Why are we pulling them through on a temporary farm worker stream when they want to become permanent residents? It just baffles the mind. It's a quicker route for the employer

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, I would for the short term. Long term, I think the organization would--

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Absolutely. I think that's the whole issue. We need to provide those services; otherwise, people are going to be marginalized. We see across the world, especially in Europe, the under-class nature of migrant worker programs, and I think we don't want that in Canada.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It sounds a little simplistic, but I think it is too difficult right now. I think we need to find a better way. We've put people in these three silos, and if you don't fit within these three silos...well, then what we have right now is the temporary foreign worker stream, because

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Right. Well, we need a system that suits the nation.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Right.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Absolutely. One of our recommendations is that we need to look at that.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Right.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It doesn't really matter which category you move up or down; it's still going to be really difficult for the lower-skilled workers to get into the country as permanent residents.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  There are some little pieces that we get, that some of the agencies get from the provincial government, but certainly not from the federal government.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Absolutely. As I said in my comments, they're here, they're working in the economy, they have kids in school, they're playing here. We need to provide some services, because if we don't, then it would be....We also want them to stay. We want them to change that route and go int

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It's the whole system that we need to look at. We have the temporary foreign worker system and the skilled worker system, and with Bill C-30 we've been trying to change them around--move these people up, move this group up, move this group down--and it's not working. I think we