Human Resources committee  You're right, it's a question of ideology, and a certain ideology has been successful over the last 30 years in convincing people that taxation is a bad thing. It is as if people and corporations have the idea that their tax money is going into a black hole. You mentioned the CCPA earlier.

Human Resources committee  I agree with Susan. I think you're getting to a debate or a discussion about the nature of our federalism. I'm an economist and I'm always looking at revenues and expenditures. One thing that hasn't been mentioned here yet today as part of the reason the federal government has backed away from what I would consider its responsibility across the country is that it has cut its revenues to the extent that it doesn't have the money to spend that it used to have.

Human Resources committee  Thank you very much. Good morning. Thank you for the opportunity to present to the committee. I represent the Manitoba Research Alliance, which is a group of academics and community-based researchers. We received a five-year grant of $1 million from the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada.