Fisheries committee  There are some charts available in the archives. I'm sure your brother-in-law, being the historian that he is, could tell you. One of those things we had in the harbour the other day showed an old chart of where the river came down. It didn't show any flow, but it showed the depths of the river.

Fisheries committee  Michael touched on two: when boats start going dry and list over—there are some in the photos we have here showing boats lying on their side—

Fisheries committee  Yes, and if they have a stove or a fridge, or.... Who knows what they have inside their boats? It's the same with the float homes: they're listing too. They're eventually going to break up. They won't take it; the float homes won't. They won't take going dry, because with their structure, they'll eventually break up.

Fisheries committee  I'm Harvey Gifford. I met all of you this morning, but I actually didn't realize I was going to meet you again, so it's probably going to be pretty repetitious, as dredging is one of my main points here. We have 93 vessels in our harbour, and 23 are recreational. We have a decline in the commercial boats basically due to the way the salmon fishery has gone.

Fisheries committee  I'm Harvey Gifford. I chair the Ladner Harbour Fishers' Committee, which is the advisory body to Delta, which is our harbour authority.