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Transport committee  Exactly. I'm simply answering what Secure Flight is requiring.

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  No, that's not exactly.... I may have misspoken. What I said is that we have challenged Transport Canada as well as CATSA as to why they felt this was necessary. What they did is present to us how they had come to that conclusion, on the basis of what information, and so on.

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  It was an oral presentation, but—

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  You may want to ask them. They may very well have documents in that regard.

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  What we did was ask them to show us how they had come to that conclusion. We're in the interesting situation where we cannot second-guess them, and yet we have to hold them accountable. What we asked them to show is that they have done due diligence in ensuring that the measure t

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  What we say is that should such a program be put to us we would do the same as we have done, for example, on the body scanners. We would require a privacy impact assessment: a full explanation of why you need this measure, why it would be helpful, and how privacy would be protect

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  --and we would review it.

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  Well, then, that would be one of the factors we would definitely consider: consent. Because what you are speaking about could be based on consent. For example, there's NEXUS, where you actually pay and you give your consent to have some private information given for the privilege

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  We consider that there is a very cogent case made by the national security authorities for keeping that information secret.

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  Because, we understand, letting them know in advance that a person is such a suspect to be put on the list could impair some of our national security protection measures.

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  There is the redress mechanism. A person can go to the Office of Reconsideration and put their case forward. Initially, when the program was set up, our office publicly asked for a stronger redress mechanism. In fact, my colleague, Carman Baggaley, was there at the time. Carman

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  No. What we focused on when we did the audit was whether Transport Canada was truly protecting the data adequately. That's what we focused on in that audit.

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  That is absolutely key, which is why we've made the recommendation.

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  In fact, two of my recommendations—

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier

Transport committee  Exactly. Yes, you are absolutely right.

May 11th, 2010Committee meeting

Chantal Bernier