Human Resources committee  I don't have the model, but it's actually not that complicated to create. I've done it in two different areas. One was looking at health expenditures. We broke it out into inflation and demographics and volume changes. We then broke it into federal-provincial-territorial breakd

Human Resources committee  In fact, we did a presentation a few years ago, which I'd be happy to send you, if that is appropriate. It talked about the issue of assets, and the assets are quite broadly defined. They are financial assets, obviously, but they are also human assets, the things one needs over t

Human Resources committee  We didn't go into that level of detail. What we're suggesting is that rather than just focusing on poverty from simply an income perspective, you need to think about that also in terms of assets. Maybe you're short on income at any point in time, but you might have assets that al

Human Resources committee  I'm not sure I want to. I'm a little bit risk resistant to say, because we haven't done any clear research on this. From being around economists for the past decade and a half, my sense is that taking the LICO, but making sure you're modifying it for actual cost of living, is the

Human Resources committee  I'm not sure I have much more to add. I think that rather than looking at the history and what the budget is right now, if we look at our numbers on poverty, we still have a long way to go regardless of the budget just presented. I think there are some positive measures, but ther

Human Resources committee  I would say that in some instances it overstates and in some instances it understates. I'd be more interested in focusing on what the change over time is according to whatever measure you decide on. The critical measure is whether we are improving over time. Once you go to the im

Human Resources committee  I'm happy to go first.

Human Resources committee  We don't have a price tag associated with our numbers. Part of my argument here was that I think, frankly, there's an opportunity here to create those numbers by developing some kind of econometric model. I'm reflecting on some of the experiences I had with previous organizations

Human Resources committee  I'm going to pick up the question that was raised at the same time that I touch on that. I tried to outline what that the strategy might look like. First of all, it has to have some clear, agreed upon goals. I think there is an appetite right now in Canada, and you see across t

Human Resources committee  I don't have anything to add at this point.

Human Resources committee  Thank you. I'll be happy to clarify that. Shall I go forward? Thank you. There are four areas that we've suggested to focus on with regard to poverty. The first is income support and living wages. The evidence would suggest that a living wage should be in the $10-an-hour range,

Human Resources committee  I appreciate the opportunity, honourable members. Mr. Chair, thank you for the opportunity as well. As I sit here looking at the picture of the Fathers of Confederation, I think it's a rather interesting time to be talking about poverty. Andrew talked about the state of our ec

Human Resources committee  I'm sorry, Mr. Chair, should I just continue?

Human Resources committee  Key facts are related to poverty. First, the goals on poverty. UNICEF released some poverty goals, about 25% reductions in five years. It appears this is going to be adopted by the Ontario government. Second, the federal government, as all of you know, approved a goal back in N