Justice committee  I would suggest you are correct at some level of your assumption. Certainly, there is still a significant amount of leadership within the prison system and the organized crime region. Again, that is why one of our key partners, which has been on board and is coming on board in a more fulsome manner, is the Correctional Service of Canada, so that we can have the correct amount of intelligence to pinpoint the law enforcement agencies towards the members who are still engaged in that.

Justice committee  Again, I can't talk specifics in this area. There are certainly people we could point you towards who could talk specifics. Interestingly enough, one of the areas that we are very much looking at right now is exactly the area of financial crime and talking about--

Justice committee  If I could follow up on that, as I may have mentioned earlier, one of our partners, certainly at the national level, and within provincial areas is the Canada Border Services Agency. We deal extensively with them, and they are there exactly for the reasons you just spoke about.

Justice committee  You hit the two key areas at the beginning, which are legislative changes to bring the process more in line with new technologies and the resources to keep up with them. Particularly when I talk about resources, I mean not just boots on the ground but also the technology to keep pace with the technology that organized crime uses.

Justice committee  I don't think I can pinpoint a specific issue, but to give you a sense of it, some of the new tools they use, whether it be a new type of cell phone or a satellite phone or a new type of BlackBerry, are tools we may not have the ability to intercept in all areas across Canada.

Justice committee  Yes, most certainly. When we speak about the members within Criminal Intelligence Service Canada, one of our key partners is the Correctional Service of Canada. We have a number of secondments of members of outside agencies who are working within our central bureau. We are very shortly going to have a member of the Correctional Service of Canada with us on a full-time basis at the national intelligence officer level, just as we have one from CBSA--the Border Services Agency--and one from the military police.

Justice committee  There are a number of initiatives already going forward that speak to that. The issues you raised are very valid ones. The technology has changed. We're seeing more use of the BlackBerrys, PDAs, cell phones; there are issues such as that. The current intercept laws and regulations are extremely cumbersome and time-consuming, and we often need to intercept in a timely fashion.

Justice committee  I could speak specifically about the Hells Angels--I've dealt with a lot of motorcycle gangs in general--and yes, certainly they're still in the top tier of organized crime groups across Canada. Certainly the Hells Angels have not gone away and in fact are the premier outlaw motorcycle gang group in Canada.

Justice committee  I could certainly speak to that, sir. There are a number of issues that factor into this. Certainly there is the nature of crime to begin with, the fluidity of it, and some of the market issues that we spoke about. But to get directly to the point of your question as a resource issue, one of the initiatives that the Criminal Intelligence Service Canada has taken on as a result of a tasking from the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police is the development of a made-in-Canada criminal intelligence model.