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Justice committee  In my presentation we spoke of counterfeit goods. We talk a lot about awareness. We have to ensure that the Canadian public is aware of where the money goes when they buy counterfeit goods. Organized crime has infiltrated these areas, because it is considered low-risk. So when yo

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  I don't believe that's too far-fetched. I think we have to draw that awareness component: where is that money going? It's going to fund organized crime, and organized crime is involved in a bunch of illegitimate businesses, such as drug trafficking, such as weapons. So you're cor

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  It seems to me that's already been done. It already exists. Some courts have ordered that.

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  For both Michel and I, our backgrounds are in proceeds of crime, so we've experienced the actual audits of those businesses. It can be quite complex because some of the businesses, especially if they've been running for a while, will resort to accountants, lawyers. They are a leg

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  I think it's a combination of both. I don't think there's a simple answer. I absolutely don't think any officer sitting before you today would say that more resources are not required. Normally when there is a requirement, we will come before the legislature and ask for those r

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  I'd expect there's some information that would be valuable that we would be more prepared to share.

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  Yes, all our intelligence demonstrates that the drug trade is still one of the primary activities of organized crime groups. I won't reiterate what I went through in my presentation. We've seen that they've branched out in many other areas.

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  In any sense, when you're running any type of activity there has to be a means of communication. So they're an absolute.... I can't recall any drug case that I was working on and had been part of that the person didn't have as a minimum one.... Normally you'll see multiple cellph

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  It certainly would complicate matters.

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  I'll answer first and Mr. Aubin can continue. You emphasized an interesting point. Organized crime enters an industry and tries to legitimize itself. So it infiltrates the construction and other industries. Once that's done, it often tries to take control of the industry. It may

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  I was just out in some of the western provinces. We see urban problems with gangs there, but we also see gangs in the rural areas. So it's more widespread than simply urban, in my experience with the different agencies for the RCMP I've dealt with.

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  We would prefer to have someone in that area come back. We have people with that expertise who could give an explanation that would be more beneficial to the committee.

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  I was just going to add to what Mr. Beazley said. There are some things that I think could perhaps be shared with the committee more so in camera, to explain more. We have people involved with that type of technology who could give some further details on the access to those devi

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  To begin to answer that question, we identified that--and I believe Superintendent Aubin did when he was answering Mr. Murphy's question--in some of our cases we have seen that organized crime has attempted to corrupt public officials. We want to highlight to this committee that

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean

Justice committee  Michel and I have roughly the same professional experience. I too have worked in the proceeds of crime field. In my experience, the phenomenon of numbered companies does not affect specific industries. I have observed that people got involved in numbered companies in a number of

April 1st, 2009Committee meeting

C/Supt Todd G. Shean