Canadian Heritage committee  That's correct.

Canadian Heritage committee  In the U.S. last quarter, I think about 500,000 customers disconnected from cable but didn't necessarily disconnect their Internet services. That raises a flag for us. Are they essentially transferring all their video needs over the Internet? If they're doing that, what does that do to the contributions that currently flow from those customers as regulated cable customers?

Canadian Heritage committee  Google has a $150-billion market cap, and our company has a $9-billion market cap. We're paying $151 million a year into these various funds. This is not an issue of means for Google. You just can't get to them.

Canadian Heritage committee  Is it in the law? I'll have to ask that.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes, there are movies and events. UFC is a huge thing in Canada now, so when we run a UFC event--

Canadian Heritage committee  It's Ultimate Fighting Championship, and there's Tapout. Montreal seems to be the hotbed for UFC in Canada--

Canadian Heritage committee  Or in the world, yes. That's right. First-run movies come right into the VOD window, typically coincident or very closely aligned with the release of DVDs in the retail market. That's essentially what it is.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes, you could get it from us. You could also get the version of last night's Glee from us. We also have a subscription video-on-demand service, through which, if you subscribe to our movie network service, you can also have a selection of movies on an on-demand basis, which would be running in that library.

Canadian Heritage committee  Rogers would have it. Videotron would have it, and some of the telephone companies may have it.

Canadian Heritage committee  We've gone around this circle. We're trying to think of the most reasonable way you could do this without.... Because they're not Canadians.

Canadian Heritage committee  We've actually approached the CBC, who use two transponders on the current satellite that we share, and we've said, “Why don't we try to find an alternate transponder for you that could be better put to our purpose in terms of distributing local signals?” So far we haven't been successful in convincing them that would be a good thing, but we're going to continue to work on that as well.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes. We heard in the U.S. that it could be as high as 20%. That was a number that was provided by a company that actually builds things that can help you to manage your traffic. But we've looked at it specifically over our Shaw network, and 5% is the number.

Canadian Heritage committee  Absolutely, it becomes an avalanche. There are very smart and very tech-savvy people. Two generations behind me, frankly, are very much that way, and if there's a way they can get what they want—and they do get it over our network—and they see the value of what they're getting as being more attractive over here, they're going to get it.

Canadian Heritage committee  Our call centre is in Montreal. We have only limited capacity, and I think we've talked about that in the past, to provide services. To the extent that we can make a very, very, compelling francophone service available in Quebec, that's what we've done. In fact, in the next few months we'll be launching three more local services on a virtual channel to our customers in Quebec.

Canadian Heritage committee  And $31 million, of course, to the local programming improvement fund.