Canadian Heritage committee  That's pretty much it. In fact, that's for the Canadian content. That $90 million is the number I use. We pay another $17 million in CRTC fees and government fees, the part II fees, so that's $103 million right there--

Canadian Heritage committee  So we make commercial payments worth $450 million to the broadcasters who own speciality services.

Canadian Heritage committee  That is correct. We propose that we would do this on a cost-recovery basis. The cost of delivering freesat would be credited against some of these fees we're already paying, such as the local programming fund, and the consumer, under our model, would be asked to pay for the home'

Canadian Heritage committee  That's correct. I'll put it in perspective, Mr. Del Mastro, if I may, in terms of the cost equation. For the sake of the broadcasters allowing Bell TV to offset against the local programming fund, a cost of about $5 million a year, we would be saving them hundreds of millions o

Canadian Heritage committee  We have close to 1.9 million.

Canadian Heritage committee  Essentially on our costs, obviously, these fees form part of our cost base. We charge our subscribers as a function of our costs and the competitive price in the marketplace. Yes, obviously, we are contributing and our subscribers are contributing to Canadian programming and to t

Canadian Heritage committee  First, the cable companies have had a monopoly for decades. Second, as I stated in paragraph 4 of my presentation, the cable companies have a certain advantage in that they have a network through which they can provide three services. Our satellites can only provide one service,

Canadian Heritage committee  That's correct.

Canadian Heritage committee  That's correct. What we did for your community is tally up the number of local stations in that community and assign 50¢ to each of those stations, because that's what the request is from the broadcasters. When you add up all the stations, times 50¢, you get the number you just q

Canadian Heritage committee  Mr. Del Mastro, if I may, the $5 is only for fee-for-carriage. If you add the other requests that the broadcasters have made, which are to increase the local programming fund from 1% to 3% and to force the satellite companies to pay even more for what are called distant signals,

Canadian Heritage committee  Our duty, above all, is to serve our consumers and then to meet the CRTC's local programming criteria and standards. We meet those criteria. In fact, we exceed them. Today we distribute more than 70 local stations in Canada. That's more than any other distributor in Canada.

Canadian Heritage committee  What is important for us is not so much to know who will convey local content to the communities as to ensure that it is in fact conveyed to them. Content delivery is the primary concern. That can be done through television, community channels or the Internet. It is not necessary

Canadian Heritage committee  It's in that spirit, indeed. I'll admit to you that, from a commercial standpoint, Bell TV can't afford to make the transfers that conventional broadcasters are requesting. However, we felt that, to help them, we could provide our satellites. That's where the exchange stands.

Canadian Heritage committee  We have been.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes, we are.