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Transport committee  We had a lot of resistance along the way, but it was done.

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  Well, a key thing, as Murad has alluded to, is icebreaking on the Great Lakes. Also, the St. Lawrence Seaway has limited capacity in terms of big, competitive ocean-going shipping these days. The ships are getting so much bigger. My own view is that, over multiple decades, the r

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  Our remit did not include pipelines, so let me just start there. However, my impression is—and this is not part of our report—the Government of Canada is considering a ban on tanker traffic. My understanding was that it was focused on oil, not gas, but I could be wrong.

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  Anyway, if there is a ban on both, then clearly, you've drastically narrowed your options for access to tidewater, probably to running it through a twinning of the Trans Mountain line through Vancouver.

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  As I say, this was not a central part of the study. We backed into oil because the lack of pipeline capacity has led to some real escalation in shipping oil by rail. That has its own implications. It's less economic, less environmentally friendly, and it's less safe. While pipeli

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  Do you mean other parts of the country?

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  When you think about free markets, I urge you not to associate free markets necessarily with the stock market. The stock markets are crazy and turbulent, and quarterly earnings and so on drive short-term thinking and decision-making. I urge, and our report urges, us to do a bette

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  They're not investing in Canada, which means either we don't get the investment or government has to do it, and government doesn't have the money.

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  You sit down with some very smart people from the Department of Finance and Transport Canada, and you find out from them how government can best play a role in creating an investment that long-term investors will invest in. It's various risk mitigation measures. It is creating a

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  I hope we didn't come across as aggressively wanting more free market. In point of fact, I think various parts of the report call for a rebalancing, to bring government's regulatory focus back in, albeit a very efficient interface with the transportation sector, but government ne

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  Yes. When you say employment lands, we have recommended as part of the preservation of critical gateways and corridors that industrial land for the purpose of supporting the transportation and logistics system be part of it, yes.

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  A quick answer is that we have recommended the provinces be part of this national advisory council on transportation and logistics. They would be part of the deliberations around creating a national strategy and a national project priority list. Getting down to a more granular l

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  Absolutely. One of the points of focus in the report was the importance of interoperability and taking a North American approach to the transportation system. There are a number of reasons for that. One, that's the biggest market. Two, a lot of the ability to have an efficient tr

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson

Transport committee  One of the observations in the report, and there is a recommendation around it, if you're going to have a national transportation and logistics strategy, we have recommended that we do as the U.K., Australia, and some others do, which is to have a national critical projects list

September 22nd, 2016Committee meeting

David Emerson