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Government Operations committee  That is exactly what the document says. You will note that the sample is over a period of 18 years, from 1990 to 2008. If you look only at today's numbers, you will see that they are different.

November 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  There are in a table on page 29 of the annual report. The numbers are certainly higher. You have to look at the numbers in the study over 18 years. In the early 1990s, the results were probably different than they are today. That is what the table shows.

November 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  I don't have the list here, I'm sorry.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  Yes. The other thing is that when you use a non-advertised process, you're supposed to have a rationale on file. We did not find a rationale on file for 36% of the cases.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  This was from our sampling that we used for the audit, which was across the board.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  The Treasury Board people accepted the recommendation we made to them. They are presently reviewing student employment policies. So the matter is going to be addressed.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  Yes. At the outset, it was a development program for students. But, over the years, it became more and more a recruiting program. As the president said, we only found a learning plan in 7% of the cases.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  To start with, yes.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  Exactly. There are hardly any learning plans now.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  As I said earlier, there has been a steady move from a student development program to a recruitment program. People are much more interested in finding candidates than in training them.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  It is not a 90-day program. It is not the one for casual employees, it is actually a different program, one designed solely for high school or university students. There are two aspects to it. There is an employment program open to a good number of summer students. Then, those whom we hire could eventually become public servants, hence the importance of the program.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  I do not have the figures at hand, but I know that there are quite a lot of them. I think it is one third, or about 36%.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  All across the country.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie

Government Operations committee  I don't have the figures, but we definitely know there are departments that use more of these temporary workers than others.

June 18th, 2009Committee meeting

Jean Ste-Marie