Agriculture committee  Yes. I don't disagree with that at all, everybody's in the same bind at the same time. But the livestock industry is a little different from manufacturing. You can't just shut it off, so somewhere along the line somebody has to take the initiative to say, this is what has to be d

Agriculture committee  What are you suggesting that these guys do? This is right now. This is not a light switch. Something has to happen. If you look at what has happened in the last four to five months, at the number of hogs going into the States right now, the trade action doesn't amount to anythi

Agriculture committee  If you let 50% of the hog production in Canada go down, what are you going to do to the tax base of this country, because you're also going to lose about another 20% to 25% of your tax base on land, because those prices are all going to come crashing down.

Agriculture committee  What we need to know is, what are you going to do to help these guys right now?

Agriculture committee  They've run out. They've run out. In one of the statements that just came out this week--and you have to think about this--they said our income was up 27% from a year ago, and this came fromRitz. Well, that's pretty good, because a year ago we were losing $70 to $80 and now we'r

Agriculture committee  Yesterday I was going to drive up, but I ended up getting heavily delayed because a couple of farmers right beside us, two cousins who work together and had 850 sows, were starting to euthanize after this statement was made. They cannot survive. We feel in Ontario that least 50%

Agriculture committee  No.

Agriculture committee  I'm in agreement with what they say. I have a little bit more entertainment in my place. I have the Department of Health, I have OMAFRA, and I have CFIA. I have all three of them, even though we are contained. The regulations stipulate that as each one goes through, they're sup

Agriculture committee  This all came about with the stand-alones now under the same regulations as abattoirs.

Agriculture committee  I'll give you a simple example of paperwork. At the end of the day when I wash my saw, I have to fill out a form that I washed a saw. Before I walk out and turn the lights off, I have to go back and check that saw and write on that paper that I checked it. When I come back in the

Agriculture committee  They don't want to touch it.

Agriculture committee  No.

Agriculture committee  I have no problem with that, because there is no way CFIA standards at this time are going to hurt us in Ontario, as far as I am concerned, as long as they don't try to make our plants exactly the same as the large federal plants. It can't be done. We don't have that.... The ot

Agriculture committee  One of the comments I have on that is OMAF in particular in our province is picking up all the standards from CFIA, but they're adding to them as they go. I turned over the list of things I have to somebody in CFIA. Of the 21 things they want changed, they said there are only thr

Agriculture committee  Yes, we definitely experience the same problems; there's no question about that. Part of this is on competition and how you survive. You might as well say we're all farmers here too, when we get right down to that, and we have to learn how to agree to disagree. One of the things